PetePete Armstrong said:Furhunter, I'm going to have look into the spire point w/ cannelure. What is cannelure ? I also like Hornady. My rifle likes 62 gr. and up. I have a 1-9 twist and it appears that the heavy-er grains print better. Right now I'm shooting 62gr. and 75gr. bullets with 1/2" or less groups at 100 yds.