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[ebbs]

Catcap, even in a draw area you can't get a landowner tag? That's crazy man! I'm still learning the Colorado game laws and seasons and tags and areas and such. It's quite a pain!

[catcapper]

CDOW gives land owners 15% preference on license draw, but the land owner has to have 160 contiguous acres of ag land. This place is is 80 acres, and I have two other ag parcels---120 acres and 110 acres. There's more than 160 acres but its not contiguous.

Most limited licenses for area 69/84 are drawn with 3 preference points (or more since CDOW changed the PP system).

We'll just have to wait til next year---in the meantime. I'll keep those bucks nice and fat.

[ebbs]

Sounds good to me, brother!

[hassell]

catcapper said:

CDOW gives land owners 15% preference on license draw, but the land owner has to have 160 contiguous acres of ag land. This place is is 80 acres, and I have two other ag parcels---120 acres and 110 acres. There's more than 160 acres but its not contiguous.

Most limited licenses for area 69/84 are drawn with 3 preference points (or more since CDOW changed the PP system).

We'll just have to wait til next year---in the meantime. I'll keep those bucks nice and fat.

Is that for the whole state or certain areas? In other words no open general season??

[catcapper]

The state is sectioned off into different areas or GMU's (Game Management Units). Some areas hold larger (and trophy size) populations of Elk or Deer. To control the number of hunters into these areas, CDOW issues Limited Licenses: Limited in number; by appilication and drawing only for specific units and dates. My place is in GMU 69/84 (limited hunt code)and I can only hunt in this area with a Limited License.

Other areas that are usally more difficult to hunt have over-the-counter or Unlimited Licenses: Sold online, by phone and at DOW offices or license agents.

ebbs is right about the hunting regs in Colo. being a pain and confusing folks cause theres also Leftover Licenses, Over-the-Counter Licenses with Caps, Ranching for Wildlife Licenses, Youth Big Game Licenses, Youth Outreach Licenses, Landowner Pilot Public Licenses and Dream Hunt Licenses.

And along with that---you cannot hunt Bear with an Over-the-counter with caps Bear License in a regular rifle Deer or Elk season west of I-25 unless you also have a Deer or Elk License for the same unit, season and method of take.

So, you can rifle hunt Deer or Elk in any of the 4 Big Game rifle seasons with a Limited License but you can only hunt Deer or Elk with a rifle in the 2nd or 3rd season with an Unlimited License. And don't forget to check the Number of Allowable License Chart---it tells how many and the kind of license you can have for each species.

I could babble on and on about Colo. regs. but I'll shut up---------------------Bye

[hassell]

catcapper said:

The state is sectioned off into different areas or GMU's (Game Management Units). Some areas hold larger (and trophy size) populations of Elk or Deer. To control the number of hunters into these areas, CDOW issues Limited Licenses: Limited in number; by appilication and drawing only for specific units and dates. My place is in GMU 69/84 (limited hunt code)and I can only hunt in this area with a Limited License.

Other areas that are usally more difficult to hunt have over-the-counter or Unlimited Licenses: Sold online, by phone and at DOW offices or license agents.

ebbs is right about the hunting regs in Colo. being a pain and confusing folks cause theres also Leftover Licenses, Over-the-Counter Licenses with Caps, Ranching for Wildlife Licenses, Youth Big Game Licenses, Youth Outreach Licenses, Landowner Pilot Public Licenses and Dream Hunt Licenses.

And along with that---you cannot hunt Bear with an Over-the-counter with caps Bear License in a regular rifle Deer or Elk season west of I-25 unless you also have a Deer or Elk License for the same unit, season and method of take.

So, you can rifle hunt Deer or Elk in any of the 4 Big Game rifle seasons with a Limited License but you can only hunt Deer or Elk with a rifle in the 2nd or 3rd season with an Unlimited License. And don't forget to check the Number of Allowable License Chart---it tells how many and the kind of license you can have for each species.

I could babble on and on about Colo. regs. but I'll shut up---------------------Bye

WOW!! Sounds like you would have a better chance at winning a state lottery than a game tag??

[ebbs]

hassell said:

WOW!! Sounds like you would have a better chance at winning a state lottery than a game tag??

It's pretty obnoxious, Rick. Also requires one to be organized and plan further ahead to know where they plan to hunt 6-8 months in advance.

[youngdon]

The G&F dept here has changed the regs as far as when to apply for a hunt in recent years as far as elk is concerned. We now apply in Jan. for elk June for deer. There are also tw Javalina hunts now spring and fall to try to control their numbers.

[catcapper]

I just got in and took some updated pics. of the herd out front so I'll post them in the morning.

ebbs---I'm trying to get 3-4 damage control permits---all is not lost yet. Keep your fingers crossed.

[hassell]

catcapper said:

I just got in and took some updated pics. of the herd out front so I'll post them in the morning.

ebbs---I'm trying to get 3-4 damage control permits---all is not lost yet. Keep your fingers crossed.

Ya right on, those deer go through a lot of salt blocks after eating all that free hay all summer.

[catcapper]

Update on bucks. Heres the pics from yesterday eveining I took with my crappy camera. These guys should be shedding thier velvet in a week or two since winter is head'in in around here. 24* degrees here this morning at daybreak, bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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[hassell]

Some real beauties there, you must live close to heaven if those bucks still have velvet this time of year!!!

[youngdon]

Wow, Those are something. I guess if you live wow near them you get used to them

[ebbs]

You're killing me, Dave! OWWOWOWOWOWOWOW! Those pics sure did get me revved up!

[hassell]

youngdon said:

The G&F dept here has changed the regs as far as when to apply for a hunt in recent years as far as elk is concerned. We now apply in Jan. for elk June for deer. There are also tw Javalina hunts now spring and fall to try to control their numbers.

We have a limited entry draw here also, applications have to be in by June results are out first of July, a lot of those draws are during the general open season, even though Fish&Wildlife here have screwed up everything, mostly caused by special interest groups, you can pretty well hunt any species anywhere in the province in a open general hunting season so I guess we have it pretty good here after listening to your stories. If I don't get out to hunt elk or what ever I feel like at the time its no big deal, there's always next year!!!!!

[youngdon]

I didn't get drawn for deer or elk this year. I guess i'll have to rethink my options for next year.

[ebbs]

youngdon said:

I didn't get drawn for deer or elk this year. I guess i'll have to rethink my options for next year.

I've got no excuses other than being the new guy and not speeding up and taking the initiative to learn the system here.

Farted around and missed the draw deadline for WYO Antelope. Got a buddy up there with 25k acres and there are more speed goats than prairie dogs. Pretty much a sure thing and if I was even a little picky I'd have a shot at a B&C goat my very first time out. Luckily, I'm NOT that picky

[hassell]

ebbs said:

I've got no excuses other than being the new guy and not speeding up and taking the initiative to learn the system here.

Farted around and missed the draw deadline for WYO Antelope. Got a buddy up there with 25k acres and there are more speed goats than prairie dogs. Pretty much a sure thing and if I was even a little picky I'd have a shot at a B&C goat my very first time out. Luckily, I'm NOT that picky

A B&C goat OR a B&C antelope? Your buddy has that many acres, you could go out in the middle of it, shoot one, eat it and no one would know the difference, hunting out of state, how many tags do they put out for that, I imagine the odds are not to good? Certain hunts here, like sheep etc. that are close, the odds are something like 300-1..

[youngdon]

What we have indigenously(is that a word) in north america are actually goats and not a true antelope we just call them that to confuse ourselves apparently.

[hassell]

youngdon said:

What we have indigenously(is that a word) in north america are actually goats and not a true antelope we just call them that to confuse ourselves apparently.

Thats funny, not true in whose book, are you comparing the antelope to the african antelope, cause there a different species than our mountain goats. We have antelope herds in a couple of our prairie provinces, I don't see where there related to the mountain goat cause they don't climb like goats do but they can sure run?